Just wanted to offer props to "Dave from California" for calling in with that Novatore quote. It definitely helped to clarify the point that "nihilism" isn't some homogeneous ideology whose adherents spend their days wallowing in despair and ascetic self-denial. Also, kudos to John for being magnanimous enough to admit to this point rather than continuing to cling to the same tired narrative.
I would hope that this episode marks a turning point for John in terms of how he talks about the so-called "nihilist" current within the anti-civ milieu rather than reverting back into old patterns of denigration and oversimplification. A little more explicit acknowledgement of the fact that there is no unified "Nihilist Tradition" and that nihilism is, consequently, a far more nuanced and broader concept than he has thus far intimated would be a refreshing change.